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General Questions
Sign-Ups
Palhoncho/Team Business
Submission Logistics
Submission Content
Privacy

GENERAL QUESTIONS


Q. What's this all about, then?


A. The Homestuck Shipping Olympics is an annual event for Homestuck fans who ship, and are enthusiastic about shipping. Its goal is to encourage fans to create a bunch of fanworks for their ships and others' ships--and also to create a space where fans can hang out and make new friends.
If you like, you can go take a look at HSO 2011 to get a better idea of how this'll work. We've made some changes since then, but the general spirit is the same!

Q. Um...won't this just create drama and animosity?


A. The HSO is not intended to be a Serious Competition! Yes, there is a point system, but that's just to create incentive; think of it as a game. A game in which participation benefits the entire fandom.
However, we are aware that the HSO's size and structure does somewhat encourage people to get a little competitive...and even aggressive. To prevent potential drama, we are extremely strict about enforcing the Wank Policy.
Please note that the Wank Policy includes a section on behavior outside the HSO. Fandom can be a very public place, and our top priority is making sure our participants feel safe.

Q. Are you going to run this again next year/ten years from now/at some unspecified time in the future?


A. We make no promises.

Q. I have a question that wasn't covered in the FAQ.


A. Go to the Info Post and search under the appropriate heading or use Ctrl+F/Cmd+F. If you still can't find it, feel free to leave a comment here or email us at homestuck.shipping@gmail.com!

SIGN-UPS


Q. When/how can I sign up?


A. Sign-ups will open on May 5! You will have until June 2 to sign up, but keep in mind that you should sign up early if you are really invested in which ship you get. Last year, we had about 300 people sign up in the first three days; plus, this year we are capping team sizes at 10 instead of 12.
This year, sign-ups will be done through a google form because last year [personal profile] influx spent about 24 hours straight processing sign-ups and we don't want that to happen again. We will post here and on the hso-announce tumblr when sign-ups open.
Please note that sign-ups take place on an individual basis. Teams are formed on a first-come-first-serve basis.

Q. But I REALLY want to be on my OTP's team! Isn't there some way I can get in?


A. At the end of the sign-up period, we'll be checking with the confirmed teams' Palhonchos to make sure that all the people who signed up for a team are actually participating (we had a few no-shows last year). Also, we will be doing participation check-ins regularly throughout the HSO. If any of these check-ins result in spots opening up on a team, we will make an announcement about it and let people sign up for that team on a first-come first-serve basis.
HOWEVER, do not count on this occurring! The HSO is designed to favor multishippers, and you will get the most fun out of it if you can enjoy making stuff for different ships.

Q. My OTP is really rare, and I don't think we'll meet the minimum required team size.


A. A number of people felt that way last year, but they did some hardcore campaigning and managed to scrape together fairly large teams in the end! Don't underestimate your fellow fans. :)
That said, if you seriously don't think you're going to make it and you don't really want to join another ship's team, you can always join Team Alchemiter or Team English.

Q. Can I still sign up if I'm going to be away/unavailable for part of the summer?


A. Absolutely! Make sure to let your palhoncho know in advance, though, especially if you're going to be gone for a week or more.

Q. How can I tell if the team I want is valid?


A. Team ships must be composed of two or more named Homestuck characters in one quadrant, wherein ‘character’ is defined as ‘a canon humanoid intelligence not corresponding to a real-life equivalent.’
Important things to note:
  • Autoresponder counts as a character.

  • We do not allow 'category' ships.

  • Different iterations count as different characters--for instance, Aranea<3Terezi is a different team from Mindfang<3Terezi. This also means that selfcest ships are allowed.




PALHONCHO/TEAM BUSINESS


Q. What happens if some of my team members drop out/disappear/don't participate?


A. We'll be sending out regular attendance check-ins this year. If team members don't respond to check-ins (assuming they haven't cleared an absence with the palhoncho), we will write them off as having dropped out and a space will be opened on your team.

Q. I have an issue with my group’s palhoncho. What do I do?


A. If you email us at homestuck.shipping@gmail.com, we’ll contact your palhoncho on your behalf; your identity will be kept anonymous.

Q. Can our team have a joint palhonchoship or a temporary stand-in palhoncho?


A. We suggest that you work out a vice-palhoncho position; that way, we know who to contact if the normal palhoncho is MIA. Co-palhonchoship is not recommended, though you can of course delegate duties to the vice-palhoncho as you see fit.

Q. What do I do if I want to switch teams?


A. If at any time, any member of the HSO wants to switch teams for whatever reason, that is fine. Simply follow these steps:
  1. Contact the Palhoncho of the team you want to switch to, and inquire if there is any room on their team.

  2. If they are not comfortable with you joining, they do not have to specify a reason and you are expected to accept this gracefully. Either contact another team’s Palhoncho, or remain where you are.

  3. If they are fine with you joining, inform your ex-Palhoncho of your switch.

  4. Join your new team comm and relinquish membership in the old comm.

  5. Write homestuck.shipping@gmail.com with your DW username, your old team, and your new team.

Please note that your points will probably not transfer as that would basically be a logistical nightmare.
If you are the Palhoncho of a team and you want to switch (and you do not have a Vice-Palhoncho in place), you must appoint a new Palhoncho. The new Palhoncho must email homestuck.shipping@gmail.com with their DW username from an email address they check regularly.

Q. What do I do if I think my entire team needs to disband?


A. It's unfortunate, but it happens!
  1. Open up a post broaching the prospect of disbanding the team.

  2. Make a good-faith effort to contact each and every member about the topic.

  3. Wait/discuss for the next 72 hours.

  4. If there is a consensus to disband among the members who have spoken up, email homestuck.shipping@gmail.com with this decision.

  5. Members may then seek out other teams using the above protocol, if they so desire.

Please note that your team points will go with you up to a maximum of the first quartile (Q1). Whatever Q1 is at the time of the disbanding will be the maximum amount of points that will be added onto members’ new teams.

SUBMISSION LOGISTICS


Q. What’s the length rule for [thing we didn’t list]?


A. If we didn’t list it, there’s no hard and fast rule. Use the things we did list as a general yardstick against which to measure the amount of effort we expect to see in each submission. If you’re unsure about what that entails, feel free to contact us.

Q. Can one person can have an entry with multiple types of media?


A. Yes, each entry can use as many forms of media as you like so long as they are tied together in some coherent way (in other words, not just a random collection of stuff that happens to fit the prompt).

Q. Can a submission be a fan work that you've made prior to the HSO?


A. No, sorry! The idea is to create fanworks specially for this challenge.

Q. Is it okay for a fic to be more than one chapter as long as it stays under the 3000 word limit? Are there any extra limits to illustrated fics?


A. It can be as many chapters as you like and have up to 4 illustrations, so long as the wordcount is under 3000.

Q. Is there any way you could extend/reconsider the 3000-word limit?


A. While we are sympathetic to writers who feel stifled or constrained, we are anticipating a lot of entries each round--last year we had 47 teams! That means that not only do people have to read through their team's submissions to decide on their round entry within a very short period, but people also have to read through (conservatively estimating) 25+ fics for the entire round. That's kind of a lot, at a maximum of 3000 words! And we want to make sure it's feasible for everyone to really consider every single entry.
If you absolutely HAVE to go over the word limit, you can accept the point penalty! We do not reject any entries based on length.

Q. When can we post things that we made for HSO?


A. You can post bonus round creations as soon as you make them! In the interest of keeping the main round voting fair, though, please wait until voting closes to post main round entries--whether or not your entry was chosen as your team submission.

Q. Will there be an official HSO time and a place to post entries that didn't make the cut as an official team submission for a round?


A. Yes! Palhonchos will receive invitations to join the hso_extras comm when the Round 1 voting closes. We will make an announcement about it when that occurs.

SUBMISSION CONTENT


Q. What is the policy on crossovers?


A. It depends what story it is. The main concern we have with crossovers is that they require knowledge of a different source material to appreciate fully; if it's a really well-known story like a common fairy tale, it should be fine. If you email homestuck.shipping@gmail.com with your idea, we can be more specific.

Q. Is there a maximum rating?


A. Anything goes! But any NC-17 stuff should be put under a cut and marked appropriately. Also, please warn for common triggers like violence, guns, non-con, body horror, etc.

Q. Is it okay if the entry focuses on one character, rather than both/all?


A. While the focus can be on one character, the submission should fundamentally be about the ship in some way.

Q. What is the policy on ancestor-related content?


A. It’s fine to include some measure of ancestor-related content, but it shouldn’t be the focus of the submission. They are different characters, after all!

PRIVACY


Q. Can people who are not participating see the entries?


A. All HSO posts will be public! But if you want to vote, you have to be on a team; Team English is meant to let people vote and participate in the bonus rounds without having to do anything else.

Q. What's the official stance on locked posts in the team communities? For example, if we wanted to have a brainstorming post but didn't want to broadcast all our ideas to the other teams.


A. That’s totally fine! We don’t actually track everyone’s comms, though we may creep from time to time. Your team community can be as open or locked as you like.


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prospitian: ((hs) oh you'll probably go to heaven)


[personal profile] prospitian
2012-05-04 08:54 pm UTC (link)
So just what is the minimum required team size?

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0dalesque: (bro)

Sign Ups


[personal profile] 0dalesque
2012-05-06 02:22 am UTC (link)
I see that there's a date when to sign up but it doesn't really specify on what one has to do to actually sign up?

Just wondering since the Sign Up kick off was today! C:

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)

Re: Sign Ups


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-05-06 02:24 am UTC (link)
In about an hour an a half, a link to the google form will be posted here on the comm! Just make sure you've read the Wank Policy, and follow the link when it goes up. :)

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eyeslikestarlight: (pic#3442816)

team?


[personal profile] eyeslikestarlight
2012-05-06 06:14 am UTC (link)
What exactly is the policy for quadrants? I mean, I see there is an Eridan <3< Sollux team, but there is no Eridan <3 Sollux team, and I know that lots of people like to have them flip from black to red. Is the <3< team restricted to blackrom only? Or can there be a new team for them flipping quadrants?

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beblueberry: (dots)

Re: team?


[personal profile] beblueberry
2012-05-06 09:26 pm UTC (link)
i'm not an HSO mod but this is a pretty frequently asked question - yes, teams are restricted to one quadrant, and quadrant-flipping is not allowed.

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dracoricmistress: (pic#3357137)

Joining?


[personal profile] dracoricmistress
2012-05-06 08:20 pm UTC (link)
I was wondering how to do that. I say this going on a while back and didn't know how.

I'd like to join somehow.

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helenvalentine: (rose)


[personal profile] helenvalentine
2012-05-07 04:15 am UTC (link)
Can you participate on multiple teams, or do you have to choose just one? I got the impression that all systems are go for multishipping, but I don't want to sign up for a bunch of things if it's not allowed. (Sorry if this is a silly question!)

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-05-07 04:43 pm UTC (link)
You will only be part of one team in the HSO! Rooting for other teams is totally acceptable (and encouraged), but each participant can only be a member of one team for one ship. You will be able to sign up for three teams in the signup form, but this is for ranking purposes and you will only be placed in one.

The exception to this is Team Alchemiter, which is the rarepair team - members of Team Alchemiter can submit works for any ship that does NOT have an HSO team of its own.

I hope this helps!

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(no subject) - [personal profile] helenvalentine, 2012-05-08 02:26 am UTC (Expand)
eyeslikestarlight: (pic#3442816)

AU?


[personal profile] eyeslikestarlight
2012-05-07 06:30 pm UTC (link)
Does it have to be in the homestuck universe, or can it be Alternate Universe, humanstuck, etc?

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-05-07 09:39 pm UTC (link)
Submissions from AUs are just fine.

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vikki: (i can explain!)


[personal profile] vikki
2012-05-07 08:16 pm UTC (link)
This is sort of a suggestion? I didn't participate last year so I don't know if this would be practical at all, but for teams that don't place in the top 10 for any given round, would it be possible for the team (perhaps via the palhoncho) to find out what their points count is? Or maybe this was done and I just don't know. :x

I dunno if this would be more likely to be demoralizing or helpful, but I know I'd like to know our points count even if we didn't place.

Thank you for putting this on; you guys are incredible.

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-05-09 08:42 pm UTC (link)
Points counts should be available for all teams other than English, assuming the way we restructure scoring doesn't drastically change what points are even awarded.

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(no subject) - [personal profile] vikki, 2012-05-09 08:48 pm UTC (Expand)
foghawk: A dark, blue-green detail of a painting, showing ships in Hull harbour. (shipping)


[personal profile] foghawk
2012-05-08 04:08 am UTC (link)
I assume interactive fiction and other nonlinear media are acceptable, provided they can be presented web-accessibly?

If so, how would the length limit apply to these works? Would it be on all possible displayed text, or the displayed text of the longest possible play-through, or would they perhaps be judged on another basis entirely?

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-05-09 08:52 pm UTC (link)
Length is on all possible displayed text. One of our mods did an interactive fiction last year which ended up hitting about the same word limit as a fic with a LOT of playthrough options, so we feel this is a pretty fair limit.

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appledoof: (john)


[personal profile] appledoof
2012-05-27 03:12 am UTC (link)
Okay I know this is said somewhere but I can't find where and I really don't remember, so
How do you switch teams before HSO begins? Is it the same way here, because I remember it being something different but I might be making that up and. so. yeah. :)?

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-05-27 03:24 am UTC (link)
Please email us (homestuck.shipping at gmail). Include your DW username and the team or teams (prioritized) you would like to switch to.

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[personal profile] thecommonerking
2012-05-28 12:24 am UTC (link)
What exactly is Team English?

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-05-28 12:26 am UTC (link)
Team English is the audience team! They may vote on entries, and participate in bonus rounds if they wish, but do not submit main round entries.

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[personal profile] meticuloustactician
2012-05-28 04:43 am UTC (link)
Awkward question, but-- I just want to confirm this. You are not taking anymore signups, right? I just, I didn't see Dave<>Terezi on the list and I thought that was kind of strange and I knew that signups were supposed to close June 2nd... so I want to make sure they're NOT open anymore before I go tell the team I roped together "ok sorry guys we missed it".

Sorry if I'm doing something wrong I'm not really familiar with dreamwidth so if I missed something...

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-05-28 04:56 am UTC (link)
Yes, that's correct--we capped signups at 1500 this year, since we got so many more than we expected. Sorry for any confusion!

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megaparsecs: (pic#3489470)


[personal profile] megaparsecs
2012-06-10 05:20 am UTC (link)
Hey, this might be a silly question, but I've gotten so used to "genre" referring to SF/F, Horror, mystery fiction etc. that I'm not sure if you mean something like that, or like fiction vs. poetry vs. art vs. etc. I'm guessing the latter but just wanted to check. : )

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-06-10 05:43 am UTC (link)
We were thinking more the former, actually! So stuff along the lines of horror, romcom, sf, along with fic-specific genres like h/c and curtainfic.

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person4: (plastic beach, Welcome to the world of the Plastic Beac)


[personal profile] person4
2012-06-10 04:59 pm UTC (link)
Just to make sure; for bonus round one, can we make prompts for ships that don't have a specific team (or maybe I should say which would be covered by the Alchemiter rarepair umbrella)

ETA: Whoop, never mind! I see a few people already doing so, so that answers that!

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influx: (you are my faith [hs])


[personal profile] influx
2012-06-10 06:41 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it's fine :>

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cypher: (strider to universe:your shit is wrecked)


[personal profile] cypher
2012-06-10 05:59 pm UTC (link)
Question on bonus round one: is it okay to fill a prompt that someone else has filled already?

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couryielle: (vris)


[personal profile] couryielle
2012-06-10 06:38 pm UTC (link)
not mod but the scoring scheme accommodates up to 16+ fills, so my guess is yes :>

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couryielle: (vris)

br1 question


[personal profile] couryielle
2012-06-10 06:42 pm UTC (link)
is there a limit to how many prompts/fills we can post? thanks!

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influx: (not gonna lose this one [hs])

Re: br1 question


[personal profile] influx
2012-06-10 06:44 pm UTC (link)
No, there is not. However, we do ask that you use your best judgment and not spam the post with prompts.

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memyselfandi: (Shakespeare - someone who stands around )


[personal profile] memyselfandi
2012-06-10 06:46 pm UTC (link)
Is there a limit/minimum to how long fills for bonus round 1 should be?

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influx: (lately i'm all right [hs])


[personal profile] influx
2012-06-10 06:48 pm UTC (link)
No, there is not! Fills may be as short or as long as you like; we ask only that you use your best judgment and put effort into everything that you do.

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jack_of_none: Valkenhayn with long claws. ([BlazBlue] A wolf who brings flowers)


[personal profile] jack_of_none
2012-06-10 10:08 pm UTC (link)
When does Bonus Round 1 end? Apologies if this was posted somewhere but I can't find it.

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-06-11 03:03 am UTC (link)
It's fine! We've changed things around so I'm sure it's kind of confusing. It will close at 11:59 PM on June 23.

- Ink

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runespoor: (ParcelPyxis Spade HSO 2012)


[personal profile] runespoor
2012-06-11 08:10 am UTC (link)
For bonus rounds, can members of Alchemiter teams only reply to prompts that ask for ships that are covered by specific teams?

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rebells: (antebellum)


[personal profile] rebells
2012-06-11 08:11 am UTC (link)
No, Alchemiter teams may fill prompts for any ships. This will be true throughout the competition.

[rp account, sorry!]

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shinigamishi: (pic#3361936)


[personal profile] shinigamishi
2012-06-11 09:46 am UTC (link)
Is it alright to fill a prompt on the bonus round for a ship that contains mine through a technicality? I am in Dirk<3Roxy and I believe we have dominion over Bro<3Mom since they're post and pre-scratch counterparts. Is it okay to fill a Dad<3Bro<3Mom?

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-06-11 01:47 pm UTC (link)
In cases where the ships are not exactly the same (Bro♥Mom versus Dirk♥Roxy, Sollux♥Eridan versus Sollux♠Eridan), we will not be enforcing any kind of rule, so we ask that you use your best judgment and stick to the spirit of the challenge. The point of the HSO is to celebrate and see the value in all ships, and to that end we forbid people from writing their own pairings during some of the bonus rounds in order to prompt them to stretch themselves a little. If you truly believe that Dirk♥Roxy and Bro♥Dad♥Mom are different pairings--and I personally would make that argument--you should feel free to write the latter.

I hope that helps! Feel free to ask if you have more questions.

- Ink

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mirror_o_rorrim: (Grimm, Just Monroe, Monroe)


[personal profile] mirror_o_rorrim
2012-06-15 11:08 pm UTC (link)
Can I post a prompt for the bonus roundm even though I'm not on an HSO team? No points needed for me!

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-06-15 11:11 pm UTC (link)
Unfortunately, we're going to have to restrict all HSO activities to signed-up participants, for our own record-keeping sanity. We do appreciate your enthusiasm, though!

- Ink

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pallidot: (serenity)


[personal profile] pallidot
2012-07-08 12:52 pm UTC (link)
If our team did not make it to the Round One Phase Two voting, can we post our entries (or unused entries) elsewhere, like tumblr? Or would you rather us wait til Round One voting is 100% completed?

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hso_mods: (HSO 2012)


[personal profile] hso_mods
2012-07-08 08:22 pm UTC (link)
Yes, that should be fine! Please wait until phase two has gone up, however.

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fivetail: (pic#3349936)


[personal profile] fivetail
2012-07-15 08:36 pm UTC (link)
Hello! I'm part of team John<3Karkat. I sent a message over DW to the mods account, and posting here for good measure.

I voted on R1P2, but my internet hiccuped so I either sent a shitload of the same form or it didn't go through at all.

I just wanted to make sure everything was okay so my team doesn't get docked because I SWEAR I ONLY MEANT TO SEND IT ONCE.

Thank you!

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