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hso_mods ([personal profile] hso_mods) wrote in [community profile] hs_olympics2012-05-20 12:16 am
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Announcement

Here is what the list of requested trigger warnings is:
A guide to assist you in not hurting your fellow participants in the HSO.
That post is not a list of rules, it is information.

It is not in any way appropriate for you to decide what other people can or cannot be triggered by. You do not get to decide that, and we will brook no argument on that topic. Furthermore, there is no hard and fast rule for triggers, because they do not follow a logical structure. There is no line we can point to, saying 'ten years is a significant age difference, but nine years is not.' Asking us for those numbers does not constitute asking us for clarification.

Practically speaking, a good rule of thumb is to consider whether the potential trigger is a significant theme in the work. When in doubt, warn and specify.
And finally, nobody is getting points taken away if they forget to add trigger warnings. Nobody is getting disqualified, nobody is getting punished in any way. We have spent the past week reworking the schedule so that we have enough time to read through the entries and add trigger warnings where necessary before posting them to the main HSO comm. We know you are going to miss stuff. We are going to miss stuff ourselves.
Nevertheless, we are committed to providing trigger warnings for all of the main round entries, and we have no intention of giving up on that commitment.
If you do not feel that you can agree with this mission in word and in spirit, the HSO may not be the right event for you.

Because of the reactions to the trigger warnings post, we are postponing the bonus round 0 for 24 hours (until May 20 11:59PM EDT) so that we can be sure everyone here is on the same page before we open the main comm to content creation that might potentially endanger HSO participants.

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[personal profile] palepersephone 2012-05-20 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
saying "I am offended at the idea that someone could be triggered by this" is not trying to have a legitimate discussion.

the mods said repeatedly that their list of warnings is comprised of things people specifically asked for. "trolling" or not, the HSO's formal stance is that all of these requests should be honored.

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[personal profile] polariity 2012-05-20 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, let us ignore the highly unprofessional reaction of the mod. Let's do that.

If someone specifically asked for a trigger against 'swearing', well, I really don't think they're in the right fandom.

There's also the fact that a lot of people don't know what the good god damn hell a trigger really is. They think that anything that "squicks" them is a trigger. Anything that makes them a "little uncomfortable". By throwing any old mundane thing onto the list (like fucking couch cushions), they're trivializing the whole matter, and making things worse for people who are legitimately thrown into panic attacks by triggers. They're making the word mean less and less.

This is a delicate subject, and as someone who more than one of those triggers could apply to? This is offensive to me, and I know a hell lot of other people.
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[personal profile] palepersephone 2012-05-20 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
yes, quark responded unprofessionally, but the mods are people too! they are not perfect.

and you're right, a lot of people requested to be warned for things that are not common or expected triggers. but you have no idea what those people have gone through. i'm not the couch cushion person but i can imagine several scenarios in which that might come to be a trigger for someone.

i acknowledge that i'm coming from a privileged position where my only 'triggers' are minor or extremely uncommon, but i don't understand how being requested to warn in fanworks for a variety of things is offensive to people with "legitimate triggers".
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[personal profile] arctickayla 2012-05-20 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
That's how I feel. I might be a little uncomfortable with things like body horror, but I'm not going to have a full fledged panic attack. One thing that really struck me was that about third of the list was included in the actual comic. I legitimately wonder how they read through the comic, as Hussie sure doesn't tag anything.

Many things, I wasn't even sure how to approach: I have French in my actual team name, and I can't tag the team name. Do I tag the couch cushions in a header image? I don't consider Alpha!Dave and Alpha!Rose to be related, but should I still tag it as incest? Thinking about what fics and drawings my team will produce, it would actually be easier to include the tags that wouldn't be seen.
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[personal profile] portaling 2012-05-21 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Setting aside the difference between warning and trigger (because that is an entirely different issue), one reason I can think of for wanting to be warned for profanity, as well as other things in the comic, is that some people might be looking to read the submissions in a place where such a thing might not be acceptable. For example, someone who works in a conservative workplace might not want their co-workers to see a Karkat fanfic with the word 'fuck' iterated about twenty times, or someone in a library might wish for nudity to be clarified in the OOC comments so that they don't accidentally get themselves kicked out for indecency. People might have read the comic when they weren't somewhere like this, but for some reason or another may not get enough time during the day to read the submissions in a private place.
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[personal profile] aedra 2012-05-20 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for this comment. People are conflating 'squick' with 'trigger', and seeing this mistake defended is offensive.